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Yep! South Jersey this time for family reasons but OS has an NJ warehouse again (technically barn) as of now. If I can just get everything re-organized I can be up and shipping again by next week I think. - Scott

@@originalskateboards Awesome!! Hope to see y’all at some New York events again like back in the day!

@@linpaul that’s the plan! Just gotta try to get setup to solve some of the manufacturing issues in house that took so many of our boards off the market these last few years. Should be a piece of cake hah

@@originalskateboards awesome!! Would love to skate with yall someday soon! And best of luck!

Better yet evolve that glue and add a foot stop with some metal in it: ua-cam.com/video/t0on8Oq5oNo/v-deo.htmlsi=AmgfDUHFYRVecNYZ

More videos to come. I’m starting to notice that to do something different you have to give up something safe, the WAVEformd stuff is about the next 20 years so if it takes me 5 years to really show how I think that changes things in a foundational way… which may be a small price to pay. That said hopefully it’s good enough that it just makes sense once you ride it. Thanks for support dude wish I was there when you made that bucket list trip!

Might taste better butt boarding, but definitely depends on the palate.

Thanks dude! That sort of support kept this going long enough for (I think) me to actually figure out why I started doing it in the first place. If you bought an OS board at any point in the last 5 years you can and should consider yourself part of the retinue. Grab that deck (hah) and let’s get after it. Hope that DD has had your back these last years and hoping to make some crazy shit that does the brand justice these next few. - Scott

I think if I had conceptualized the issues Dutch was having with the direction I was going in 2010 I would have been a hell of a lot further along the road to where I am now. I couldn’t have solved it because: family business, but at least I should have heard it more clearly. That said, life is short and you figure it out when you figure it out. I feel like Bish and Dutch had an idea of who they were and what they believed in then in ways I only really have now, for different reasons. That’s sort of how it goes. I feel like it’s all really about figuring out who you are and where you want to be. If you run into those friends (Bish, Dutch, others) make sure you take the time to understand what they are saying if they disagree with what you are up to. All feedback is positive even if it doesn’t jibe with your direction. Has replying to actual shit always counted as breaking the 4th wall? -Scott

@originalskateboards thats one of the best parts of having mates though, sometimes you have to have the hard conversations and be willing to listen to expand your mindset to different viewpoints. If you guys are ever near Sydney Australia, drop a location would be cool for a meetup

Ay same bro, glad to see they made not only my childhood!

After how many years? That’s epic. Hey I’m actually working on a kit to add the grip pad from the new Derringer Surfskate to the old one. Should be a video on how to do that coming in the next month! Since it seems like you’ve been following for a while RING the notification bell and hit “all”. Our new vid notifications don’t hit anyone from back in the day which is a bummer. Have fun on my current favorite board (Derringer 28) and stay in touch! Scott

I think it worked that way generally the same for all of us who helped make it. 1) made us ride more 2) found one of our favorite songs. Still riding and still stoked when the swimming song some how finds its way to my ears. As an aside: if you haven’t already ring the notifications bell. Right now any new stuff I put out doesn’t hit anyone who watched the old videos because it’s out side the duration UA-cam thinks things might still matter to anyone. Hope life is good and thanks for the swimming song stoke! - Scott

Hope you are still into it man! Just finished packing up the OS warehouse which is currently on a train someplace on the way back to NJ. Hoping to make a lot more videos in the near future, so if you were following us back when this one came out definitely ring the notification bell…. Which didn’t exist when we came up and now means any new videos we make DO NOT get sent as notifications to our old subscribers. Hope life is good and thanks for the support all these years!

Yew! That’s what I’m talking about man. Now the real question is did we get deprioritized in the YT algorithm because of that haha If you haven’t already ring the notification bell, I’m going to be posting more stuff in the near future and no one from back in the day gets notifications anymore. Hope life is good and you are still outside enjoying it someplace as often as possible. Thanks for the stoke! Scott

Yoooo you got your first subscriber. Hope life is good, we gotta meet up for some surf in here someplace. Keep in touch! Scott

Likewise… and working on some new projects. Finally got around to shooting what I assume will be a video series, albeit a series about shutting down the Portland warehouse and moving back to NJ. Also got my first footstops, which are the first piece of my ideas on how to make boards differently, you can see those here: ua-cam.com/video/t0on8Oq5oNo/v-deo.html Feeling like it’s going the right direction and hoping to make more stuff that has people checking in 10 years from now. Thanks for saying what’s up! -Scott

Hey Mason! Yes and no. Or rather no, but eventually yes. The big thing I’m doing here is restructuring the way our line up is constructed to focus on production methods I have more control over. I’ve spent the last 5 years (since 2019) trying to work with partners who made way more money than I’ve ever seen to make the things they previously agreed to produce… with what I would call poor results (to say the least). So basically the DK is caught in the middle of that, even though we have been able to order (and get) DKs I dont just need DKs and Pintails (though the 46 have also been refused there) I need Baffles and Arbiters and the whole line, or not. So a good way to look at that is: the DK is temporarily discontinued for reasons that are complicated but amount to: brands in a decline in a declining (up until recently) industry have no ability to get anything that is even a little bit complicated (and unique-ish to them) pressed by essentially anyone in the industry. So after three or four years of trying I said fuck it I’m going to find a new way to make skateboards. The first piece of that is the footstops in this video. That said I am going downhill first because those decks take the least beating) unlike DKs. I may also get a small production setup going to run DKs but that’s going to be at least months from now. It kills me to not have this stuff but if I keep doing things the same way I will essentially always be chasing the same tail, not traveling, not filming, and instead trying to forecast when or if the boards I ordered (or new ones I designed) will come in. It’s pretty soul crushing, particularly when they come in wrong … Arbiter KTs with no logo!?! Sorry man, I know that’s the furthest thing from what you want to hear but I had to either shit or get off the pot on these ideas. That might be one reason it feels shitty to break this particular news.

Hey dude! The crazy part is that the way things are structured now as far as board pricing the COST (prior to spray finishing / paint, art application, delivery from the factory) on those two boards is about $90. Add the delivery, spray finish, and 5 minutes (amortized) art application and those decks would get made right now for about $105-110. That also would require a brand new $15,000 mold to recreate each of those decks (which I’ll discuss in a video article some point soon). Pretty much the least you can possibly try to “make” as a brand on a deck is 30%. However / whoever you sell to, you have to make AT LEAST that on the majority of your boards. If you watch restaurant impossible (woo cooking and business at the same time!) Robert is always talking about 30% food costs. He’s talking about a similar issue which is basically that if you buy something expensive you have to sell it for more… or not sell it at all. So what you can’t do is sell something more expensive for less because that doesn’t leave you enough money to pay overhead, pay your people, or pay yourself. 30% will leave exactly zero dollars for video budget, travel, the team, et al. That’s why you see boards on Amazon going cheap but where those companies aren’t putting up videos or traveling (beyond maybe paying an influencer a few hundred bucks who is going to travel ANYWAY and therefore can shoot at a reduced cost by spreading the cost of the trip to multiple supporters/ brands. So that’s basically the problem, and the main reason I’m closing the Portland warehouse. The economics of a huge number of our boards changed, while my perspective on the relationship with that manufacture also changed. More over a lot of brands are in a position where they very much need to decide whether to charge more than 30% (Amazon type pricing) in order to leave enough margin for shops to stay in business, to travel, etc. Another way to look at it is that the cost on any board is directly related to the flexibility that brand owner has to try cool (or untested shit). But I don’t know that there is necessarily a place for that without something else that is innovative enough to reduce the price and add enough value to be able to charge a price that seems fair (and less than competing products). The other option is to make decks ourselves and THEN sell direct to the customer (which won’t let me use an 8 million dollar robotic layup machine to be sure). So that’s what I’ve been trying to find, and at the moment do, but also why a cheaper Apex isn’t really on the horizon right now (as much as I want it to be): none of it’s done yet.

Thanks dude! I know I got into it for one reason: I liked doing art and skateboards need art on them. I think I did all board art up to 2009 at which point I was just too slow. Which is sort of a microcosm of the problem. There really isn’t art that is too slow, there are only projects that need more art (or love) than you can produce in a given time. That’s such a stress that I think a lot of people feel in a lot of different ways but it’s so counterproductive if you are trying to push yourself creatively that sometimes you just can’t do it and have to deliberately choose what to give up to try to get the space (mentally) to make it happen. Portland is a place I would have happily lived and saw my self spending so much time, but if the choice is a trip (even to see good friends and do good work) or trying to sort out how to get boards back in stock, that’s where it’s just work, it’s not really a decision, and that just sucks. I’ve done that so so much for 20 years I just need to try to do it some other way (ie. Make shit myself) or maybe die trying haha I also found a place that feels like home, even if the best waves are breaking in 42 degree water. That home feeling makes a lot of hard stuff just a little easier, I’m hoping it will stay that way. Thanks for the good word dude, seems like it’s never too late to do something a little different.

Noted! I trying to focus on stuff I can actually make. I haven’t tried much with HDPE and the like and I’m surprised there aren’t more options out there. Which part of pucks is hard to get right now? I’ve seen a lot of sick work done on puck risers etc is it the pucks the themselves that are in short supply?

​@@originalskateboardsYeah pucks themselves are what's lacking imo. It's mostly availability, there's a few boutique brands making pucks but they're almost always sold out. Seismic pucks are the most consistently available, but the formulas which actually last long usually aren't in stock. I used to be able to go into a local skate shop and they'd have S9 or Triple 8 pucks, but nowadays they don't even carry gloves themselves because the distributors they buy from don't work with these boutique brands. Mostly frustrating since I've been in the DH scene since 2012 and gear felt way more plentiful and varied back then. It's like the super niche high performance DH stuff has gotten more available, but products for more casual freeriders aren't there like they used to be.

@@flurpoidthis is sort of what is killing OS at the moment also I think. As the industry is expanding all sorts of manufacturers look at it and say “hey shit there is some serious volume here “. Maybe it is as much as they think, maybe not. It’s about “upside”. BUT the response is usually to go find someone with a brand, or wait until someone with a brand comes and asks them, before trying it. This has the advantage of hiring a free R&D team (the brand and their team riders) and then letting that brand pay for all the molding. Way cheaper than starting the thing yourself as a manufacturer. The downside for brands is that the upward trend, and specifically the upside for manufacturers, doesn’t last forever. When the volume goes down (which always happens eventually in skate) the mfgs who were so stoked on the possible pay day just drop the project. Or sideline it and deliver late, or make shit wrong, until the brands give up, eat the loss and move on (or go out of business). That probably happened with slide pucks and my bet is it has more to do with it than distribution etc (otherwise the shit would be on Amazon etc). If there is a puck material that doesn’t leave microplastics on the road I would consider trying to make something with that on this end!

That’s it dude, me too. I’ll get some when I get this move done for sure and miss a couple of good days prepping for it. That’s life though. No one skates or surfs every day even though “being a professional means doing the things you love to do on the days you don’t want to do them.” Always room to try to do better though!

Dude. No. But not going to lie, riding out a larger than average hill on busted wavecams at the moment. But riding it out haha There is no way to do something really different without sacrificing something. Whether that’s time with family and friends, time surfing or skating, or just a reasonable livelihood. Absolutely everyone who has given it a go in skate has done that. Doing it for 20+ years that has happened more times than I can even count. Plus I’ve had a chronic disease screwing my shit up since (officially 2012 but really 1987). Thanks to fantasy football (hah!) I feel better about things that are probabilities not guarantees. The opportunities to work on stuff that’s not guaranteed are so hard to come by, but I sort of had to keep it in Portland and sacrifice one of those or try to get things smaller (and swap places with Steve and Josh to build boards and whatever else) to get there. No plans to go out of business but also choosing the path less followed at the moment. Thanks for the stoke and support dude! - Scott

@@originalskateboards that’s so good to hear. Best of luck and wishing you all the best!

@@RamGlez thanks dude! Gotta pick your spots and go for it. Either the boards we make look completely different and kick ass this time next year… or something didn’t work the way I think it will. Could go either way.

@@RamGlezthanks man! Definitely can use all the help I can get at the moment, having actual people around commenting and not completely talking into the social void also helps.

Thanks Jack, it’s been a little wonky the last few years but making moves and trying to focus on what makes me happy and just so good work… and make stuff. It’s been a seriously stressful few years so I’m trying to find a way to still have fun with the videos even if it’s not all rainbows. Moved to south Jersey and realized I absolutely must surf to stay sane. Been happier and feeling more myself than I have… maybe ever. Thanks for the support dude, it’s been a bit.

Dang dude, huge fan of original! I've got a set of s6 on 4President topmount 38" Earthwing Space Coaster and it's the carviest board around, handles any hill with no slides ❤

@@danoyes1 heck yeah man, get a WAVEformd footstop on that bad boy and let’s ride! Thanks for the good word, not closing just moving and hopefully getting this new S6 design done eventually. Brian at Earthwing has helped me out a bunch of times and I’m stoked to see you supporting the effort!

Is there a code or something I'm missing for the sale? I've got a deck in my card on the site and it's still full price. 🤔

@@KodaCalico hey dude, I believe we took the sale down as the warehouse is currently in a 53 foot container probably waiting to be loaded onto a train to come back east. I’m cutting the first vlog of that process now but won’t be able to ship anything for about two weeks (ish) it takes 9-10 days to get there and then I have to get setup to actually ship this stuff out of a garage for you guys. Hopefully I’ll also get some time to make some new boards in the process. I know the OS trucks are still on sale because we have so freaking much of them, there is a new wavecam design coming as soon as I get through: 1. Unloading 2. Making Baffles in house 3. Making some more footstops 4. Making a lot more videos Should be a piece of cake. If you place an order now it’s basically a pre-order that will get shipped asap when I have everything setup.